Drill Press Vice?
Drill Press Vice?
Does anyone here use a drill press vice and a drill press to make weight pockets? I am not sure if a drill press has enough RPM to make this process work but if so a vice it not too expensive. Photos or brand names would be nice if anyone is making this work.
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Re: Drill Press Vice?
We use a drill press and vise to drill out weight pockets at all of the workshops that we hold. We use Forstner bits for the drilling and just nibble out the wood. The vise is just a regular inexpensive vise but we do use some soft jaws that attach with magnets to keep from marring up the block.
That step is easiest to perform before the block has been cut to shape. Just mark the block with the design (side and bottom profiles) to make sure that the weight pocket is not drilled too deep or outside of the intended design.
That step is easiest to perform before the block has been cut to shape. Just mark the block with the design (side and bottom profiles) to make sure that the weight pocket is not drilled too deep or outside of the intended design.
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Awana Grand Prix and Pinewood Derby racing - Where a child, an adult and a small block of wood combine for a lot of fun and memories.
Romans 5:8
Awana Grand Prix and Pinewood Derby racing - Where a child, an adult and a small block of wood combine for a lot of fun and memories.
Re: Drill Press Vice?
I was thinking about something like this:gpraceman wrote:We use a drill press and vise to drill out weight pockets at all of the workshops that we hold. We use Forstner bits for the drilling and just nibble out the wood. The vise is just a regular inexpensive vise but we do use some soft jaws that attach with magnets to keep from marring up the block.
That step is easiest to perform before the block has been cut to shape. Just mark the block with the design (side and bottom profiles) to make sure that the weight pocket is not drilled too deep or outside of the intended design.
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If just drilling weight pockets, that is a bit of overkill.KiaTia wrote:I was thinking about something like this:
http://m.sears.com/productdetails.do?pa ... 924087000P
The adult can hold the vice in position on the drill press table and have the kid do the drilling of the block. Slide the vice around on the drill press table to position the block for the next plunge with the Forstner bit.
Randy Lisano
Romans 5:8
Awana Grand Prix and Pinewood Derby racing - Where a child, an adult and a small block of wood combine for a lot of fun and memories.
Romans 5:8
Awana Grand Prix and Pinewood Derby racing - Where a child, an adult and a small block of wood combine for a lot of fun and memories.
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Re: Drill Press Vice?
This is essentially what we use.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_209460-52800-BV ... Id=3053485
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http://www.lowes.com/pd_95059-70-PC1008 ... Id=3047788
http://www.lowes.com/pd_209460-52800-BV ... Id=3053485
http://www.lowes.com/pd_209898-52800-BV ... Id=3070247
http://www.lowes.com/pd_95059-70-PC1008 ... Id=3047788
Randy Lisano
Romans 5:8
Awana Grand Prix and Pinewood Derby racing - Where a child, an adult and a small block of wood combine for a lot of fun and memories.
Romans 5:8
Awana Grand Prix and Pinewood Derby racing - Where a child, an adult and a small block of wood combine for a lot of fun and memories.
Re: Drill Press Vice?
This is really what we do. Kids love to do the drilling and the adult (guess who !) has his hands on the block sliding it around. I don't see a lot of use for a vise in this as you are going all over the block, potentially. We use forstner bits, saw drills http://www.harborfreight.com/3-piece-sa ... 42804.html, and various sizes of low cost, 4-flute end mills.gpraceman wrote:The adult can hold the vice in position on the drill press table and have the kid do the drilling of the block. Slide the vice around on the drill press table to position the block for the next plunge with the Forstner bit.
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Looks like a great vice. If you're going for fancy or overkill, look at something that can provide an offset angle. That will allow you to do things like drilling precision cant axles.
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For safety sake, I'd use a vise. I've had bits grab onto a piece of wood and spin it around. I wouldn't want to be holding it by hand if that happens.quadad wrote:I don't see a lot of use for a vise in this as you are going all over the block, potentially.
Randy Lisano
Romans 5:8
Awana Grand Prix and Pinewood Derby racing - Where a child, an adult and a small block of wood combine for a lot of fun and memories.
Romans 5:8
Awana Grand Prix and Pinewood Derby racing - Where a child, an adult and a small block of wood combine for a lot of fun and memories.
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LOLNate wrote:Looks like a great vice. If you're going for fancy or overkill, look at something that can provide an offset angle. That will allow you to do things like drilling precision cant axles.
I will use any excuse to buy a new tool.
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If you haven't shot a perfectly good workpiece across the room with a drill press, you're still getting to know your way around the shop.gpraceman wrote:For safety sake, I'd use a vise. I've had bits grab onto a piece of wood and spin it around. I wouldn't want to be holding it by hand if that happens.
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Try kickback on a tablesaw. I put a nice dent into the side of my tent trailer from that. Fortunately, I was off to the side and not directly in front of the blade.Nate wrote:If you haven't shot a perfectly good workpiece across the room with a drill press, you're still getting to know your way around the shop.
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Romans 5:8
Awana Grand Prix and Pinewood Derby racing - Where a child, an adult and a small block of wood combine for a lot of fun and memories.
Romans 5:8
Awana Grand Prix and Pinewood Derby racing - Where a child, an adult and a small block of wood combine for a lot of fun and memories.
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Re: Drill Press Vice?
We use a drill press to drill weight holes and axles. Each has a fence that you hold the block/car against. The bottom of the car fits against the fence and the drill is set not to drill through the car. Using the size bit we do, we know that one hole will equal about 1oz of lead. Parents usually hold the car/block against the fence and boys pull the handle to drill the holes. It's been working for us over 10 years.
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We use a Rotozip to route out weight pockets. The Rotozip cuts the pine like butter. Just remember to use your fingertips to guide the tool for the tip end and not try to do it by the body. Using the depth gauge and your fingertips, you can almost act like its a pen when routing the wood. Be sure to clamp the car body to a table top or something. You will not be able to hold it in place by hand.
The other thing to do the outside edge of where you want to route and then take out the meat from the center area.
The other thing to do the outside edge of where you want to route and then take out the meat from the center area.
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We use a similar to setup to AlabamaDan's, but without a precise fence, yet.
A 25/64 drill bit will make PERFECT holes for 3/8 tungsten or lead.
Ours is a 2nd hand Harbor Freight drill press, works just fine for weight pockets.
Axle holes aren't quite as easy, but if we're careful we're okay.
Good Luck!
A 25/64 drill bit will make PERFECT holes for 3/8 tungsten or lead.
Ours is a 2nd hand Harbor Freight drill press, works just fine for weight pockets.
Axle holes aren't quite as easy, but if we're careful we're okay.
Good Luck!
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Just another suggestion - Another option is to cut your weight pockets all the way through the body and use a 1/64" basswood cover plate. That is what we have been doing lately.