DerbyGuyDoug wrote:As long as I've been collecting I've only run into 2 cars with this set up, I actually purchased the 2nd one I found. Because of the oddity, because of the rarity, I have to think these are early.
Like DerbyGuyDoug,
As long as I've have been collecting I myself have only run into 2 cars using this wider wheel and hub style set up.
Back when I first started here on Derby Talk .. I asked FS if he could help me with this wheel he thought I was showing off at the time!
Well maybe I was because I had a car and an 8 car bulk set kit with this wheel type .. back when I first started talking and sharing pics.
I also shared the car plans from the kit, FS shared with me how the Lion Rank was also seen in the car plan as well..
and how in 1964 this rank was no longer.
Anyhow :
This topic on the wider Cub Scout wheel style really had me wanting to put a true date to this wheel style or on a year used as a collector stand point.
And to help out with any Information about them that I could !
Here is a pic of 2 cars that I now have in a collection with this wheel style.
The gold and red car seen on bottom that's modeled after what look's to be a Mercedes w-165 .
Was my 2nd discovery of a car using this wheel style!
The 8 car Cub Scout bulk set kit with the same wheel type seen in the photos way above.. was my 1st discovery of it's kit & wheel type.
Note: the wheels seen on the Mercedes looking car at the very bottom are running the hub's outward & that it also looks to be using a 1970's CMI kit style.
The brown stained car seen with gold paint on the wheels is running with this same wheel style .. but is in the 1950's - 60's kit style.
The car seen on top in the 50's-60's kit style with the trophy is my latest discovery with a car using this same wheel style .
Note: the trophy is dated 1963!
Here is a closer look at the hub and wheel style seen being used on that car.
Here are some pic's of a different Pinewood derby wheel style that almost looks the same .
(smaller outer hub dome style with a larger wheel bore.)
Note: the different style wheels will be seen on the very bottom in the pic .
The Cub Scout wheels will be seen on top... left to right inner and outer views of the wheel types.
View of treads for the different wheel styles:
Note: the wheel seen to the right hand side is just a smidgen taller and has a little bit different tread profile.
Here is a close up pic of inner hub styles:
I believe this different wheel style to be an early Royal Ambassadors wheel because of the much larger wheel bore size.
And there the only Pinewood Derby wheel type that I know of that even comes close to the Cub Scout wheel type as far as looks to the inner hub style.
Hope this new traded information helps you out Doug!
As it's all I know so far about Cub Scout wheel type to maybe put a date to there kit style or for a year used.
Whoda.