Pinewood Derby at the Boy Scout level?

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Pinewood Derby at the Boy Scout level?

Post by Vitamin K » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:30 am

So I told my son about the LED lightning bolt car that Sporty had built and, of course, he was psyched and wanted to do something similar.

Alas, I had to slow his roll a bit, as our time frame for car building is looking smaller and smaller, and, on top of that, if I let him have LEDs on his car, there's no way I can get out of letting his sister and younger brother put LEDs on their cars too. But, to compromise, I said, "How about we plan on that next year, when it's your last pinewood derby?" (He is currently a Webelos I).

His response was an anguished, "You mean I won't get to do Pinewood Derby after that???"

Anyhow, I assured him that if he still wanted to build and race cars, we could find an outlet for it, but did get me thinking: Why isn't Pinewood Derby continued into the Boy Scout level? I mean, kids have fun with it. Adults have fun with it (otherwise this board wouldn't have so much traffic). Couldn't, conceivably, teens have fun with it too?

One possibility might be to make the Pinewood Derby a joint event between Cubs and Boy Scouts. The Boy Scouts help run the event, and a few extra classes get added on for the older boys to build and race their cars.

I'm just curious as to whether anybody else has thought about this, or seen anything like it done before?



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Re: Pinewood Derby at the Boy Scout level?

Post by Darin McGrew » Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:17 pm

What is the purpose of your derby?

Personally, I think the "sweet spot" for the derby is in the 3rd-6th grade range. Most kids younger than 3rd grade aren't ready to contribute much to the construction of a derby car. Most kids older than 6th grade don't need much help from a parent or other adult. So from the perspective of promoting child-adult interaction, it makes sense to focus on the range where most kids still need adult help, but where the adult doesn't have to do nearly all the work.



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Post by ciodude » Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:13 am

BLAST Car racing was designed to take over for pinewood derby racing in the Boy Scouts. I don't think it's really taken off though.



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Post by Speedster » Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:39 am

Darin,
I must respectfully disagree. I Love the Tigers and I Love to watch them race. Their excitement is a thrill for me and the crowd. Any Tiger can come up with a paint job and apply it himself. If that's all he can do, so be it. HE did it and probably did it all himself. I Love all ages of racers but the Tigers have a special place in my heart.
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Post by dna1990 » Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:12 pm

Soapbox Derby in your area...? aasbd.org



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Post by Speedster » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:44 am

VK, I think I might have solved your sons problem. Hopefully he will move on to Boy Scouts. Working with you as long as he has he is going to be very knowledgeable about building fast cars. You two also build beautiful cars so he is going to do well in the Design category. Introduce yourselves to a Girl Scout troop. Your knowledge, skill, and tools you own would be a huge benefit to the Girl Scouts come Pinewood Derby Time. Your son will have an opportunity to make lots of new friends.
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Post by ciodude » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:06 am

The real solution is to have your son take on the position of Den Chief with a local pack. Then he can keep making racers with his Den! That's what my son did for almost 5 years. He would just race in the siblings/leaders races.



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Post by ZebsRacing » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:57 am

I have a Tiger in his first year, he was willing to do everything, but I let him sand and paint, of course. Now does the car look awesome? Not really, he decided to rush through the sanding part, has anyone had that problem? He learned a lesson when his brother took 1st overall and he took 3rd overall.



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Post by Vitamin K » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:37 pm

I like to cackle evilly every time I hand them the block back for more sanding.

"Enough sanding??? It's NEVER enough sanding! More!"



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Post by ZebsRacing » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:24 pm

Thats funny sir, but true. I just dont know how to instill in him that it may be a [crummy] job, but it matters. We all know it matters, but I want him to take pride in every aspect, not just be happy with a fast jalopy with thrown together paint. I refuse to go hands on with this part because I feel it is part of the "50" percent. That I think a Tiger should do.



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